Hello mastodon, but more precisely users (or interested people),

I'm exploring the idea of making a survey on YunoHost to have a better understand on who use it and why and what is important to you and what to improve/already works.

For that, it would be great if you could help me by answering some questions so I can put better questions/more options in the survey :)

I'm going to do 1 toot per question, but let's start with the first one: can you tell me why you are using ?

Can you tell me what are the most common kind of bug you get in ? (like "failing to update applications", "configuring domain" etc...)

Can you tell me what are the things you find hard to do in ? (like "configuring a domain")


Can you tell me what are the part you think we should improve in ? (like "easier admin", "inline documentation", "easier to debug" etc...)

Can you explain me a bit how you are using ? Like "for myself for some apps" "for emails" "for a group of ppl"

For a positive note 😋 what is already good and easy to do in and shouldn't require that much more work? (like other things are more important)

I'll probably have other questions but that's already a lot, thanks a lot for all your answers ❤️

@bram Thank you for taking the time to ask these questions and for all the work you do ! ! ! :blobheart:

@bram yunohost is amazing ! Congrats to everyone that has contributed.

@bram @arthurlutz Yes a very very huuuuuuuuge thank you! Yunohost is amazing!

@bram une fois que ça marche on enchaine les installations de trucs et hop hop hop :D

@bram et plus sérieusement ça m'a permis de pouvoir faire de l'auto-hébergement ; j'aurai clairement abandonné sans ça

@Nausicaa c'est trop trop cool à lire ça ❤️❤️❤️❤️

@bram la gestion des utilisateurs et des authentifications couplé aux installation d'applications. Sans avoir à gérer tout cela à la main ^^

@bram it's a good way to setup our own server in a quick, relatively easy way, and then smoothly acquire knowledge about how it works, how apps works with the server components (Nginx, …).

Once some packaging work has been done, upgrading some apps is as easy as changing the source URL (+Sha256 sum).
(o, it's more due to the app itself than Yunohost, but still, that's a good point)

Also migrating to a new server (or restoring a backup) is quite fast, from a fresh Yunohost install.

@bram Everything is good and easy in ynh 😄

I think the admin-interface has a very intuïtive structure, so is the user-interface. I love how apps can have the ynh symbol that brings people back to the user-interface. The cli is also very intuïtive in structure, esp since it seems to follow the structure of the admin interface, and the --help is always clear imo. Installing is also super easy. I've installed Lime (so just flash the card and boot it up) and on on Debian (so just run a command that runs a script). I also LOVE how the packages ask questions so you can immediately set it up the way you want/like it. Even setting up an app that is not packaged is easy to do and once you can do that, the first steps of creating a package are basically done.

@bram The UI is good, the account creation process simple and install yunoapps is a pleasure

@bram installing an app is good and easy–but other service providers do it.

What is *awesome* is how easy it is to upgrade an app. The upgrade path is often neglected by cloud/docker providers–and Yunohost makes the maintainance and upgrading of live apps reaaaally easy.

@bram installation process , one-click app installation, sso , backup (still experimental ?)

@bram yunohost is awesome ! Kudos to all the people that make this possible and with such a nice community with it.

@bram Pretty much any level 7 app is good. Lol.
A vpn would be very, very nice.
I already mentioned the nameserver thing (dns management).

@unklebonehead tor is somewhere on the todo list yes, I know people are working on vpnserver app and some people (without free time :() wants to integrate vpns into yunohost core

@bram pour moi principalement et pour partager des photos avec ma famille

@bram Je l'utilise pour moi même et ma compagne (agenda, shaarli...). Un wiki public. Un nexctcloud ^^

Je l'utilise pour de l'auto-hébergement sur un petit raspberry pi. Pour mon utilisation personnelle, surtout pour Nextcloud, les e-mails et le filtrage du réseau avec Pi-hole.

Avec mes maigres connaissances, il me serait très difficile de mettre tout ça en place sans Yunohost et surtout cela me prendrait beaucoup de temps et d’efforts et certainement sans avoir la certitude d'avoir bien fait les choses ^^
J'adore ce projet et les possibilités qu'il offre au plus grand nombre. ❤️

@bram For myself for few stable apps only :
- Rainloop as a webmail front page for external email (imap/smtp). (not communicated with the email provided by Yunohost)
- Shaarli
- Dokuwiki

In project to test more apps, but fear about possible crash and vps load.

@bram For myself on my lime1 with an ssd for personnal and more private mails, nextcloud and xmpp behind a nohost.me domain since late 2016.

@bram For myslef and some friends and customers on a vps for my work with 17 domains and sub-domains to host mail, nextcloud, dokuwikies, gravs and a couple of wordpress since early 2017.

@bram For a customer on avps with mails, roundcube and nextcloud for 4 users.

@bram two company installs :

* one for a client project to have multiple tools out of the box to manage a project (no email use)

* one internal to the company to easily deploy tools to test out (but might end up being considered production) - see tickets about integrating with an existing LDAP

@bram for myself (main user) and family members (for small uses)

email, xmpp, calendar

for a festival : blog, funkwhale and peertube

for a "association": blog, shared finance application

@bram Its all about me!
PeerTube -my videos
TTRss-for my news
Airsonic-for my entertaiment and podcast catcher
Mywebapp-personal website
Mumble-gonna be used for my podcast production someday
Nextcloud-but prolly gonna switch to syncthing for files and something else for docs

@bram (en faite je viens de capter que t'es le bram qui avait fait la conf sur yunohost qui m'a donné envie de tester donc je vais continuer en français). Pour l'instant je l'utilise pour les mail (j'ais un serveur mutualisé chez un hébergeur avec rainloop depuis 3 ans mais s'héberger dans son salon c'est quand même mieux). J'ai commencé à transférer mes fichiers sur nextcloud (avec un HDD externe) et du code sur gitea et je compte aussi monter un blog.

@bram Aussi, comme j'ai des amis au brézil qui n'utilisent que whatsapp ou gmail pour communiquer, je compte tester riot et matrix pour être plus serein quand on se dit tout le bien qu'on pense de Jair

@edardach oh, pour te prévenir, j'aime beaucoup matrix/riot mais c'est encore assez "clunky" et pas toujours marrant à administrer :x

Merci pour tes réponses en tout cas et content que ma conf t'ai donné envie et que ça te plaise ❤️


Authentication method should have a possibility to use 2FA/MFA, especially for the admin account

Better documentation of what is already configure and how ( for example I couln't find easily the rspamd config of yunohost and what have been done to it )

@hugopoi that looks like "advanced users" documentation here, not really our main target, could you elaborate a bit plz?

Regarding 2FA it has been asked quite a lot but it's a bit weird because your password is the same that the email password :s

@bram Yes advance usage but I'm not sure there is details in the current documentation about how the spam are handled. It would be good if we have simple architecture diagrams about which soft is used for each feature, the github issues are confusing between the old v2 stuff vs v3, rspamd replace another soft

@hugopoi oh strange, rspamd is here since v2 so v2/3 should be the same (v3 only means "works on stretch") (v1 was in ruby and super old)

@bram Maybe I had bad readings in the issues when I search last week but was not clear of what rspamd take care of just by search in issues or in code.

@bram Another point that I haven't tell, I use Yunohost in a VM within Freenas, as Yunohost doesn't offer storage management feature and i think its fine that way. Maybe a source of frustration for some users ?
I writed a blog post in French about it blog.hugopoi.net/2019/03/30/le

@hugopoi storages management is something on the todo list since a long time yes :/

@bram Inline documentation would be nice. Like having some links between the admin sections and steps to the admin doc yunohost.org/#/admindoc or at least just one visible help button pointing to the documentation.

@bram integrated encrypted backups, not as an application, but in the core of yunohost (can be based on the existing borg applications), and with that clear information about what app uses what kind of data (sql dump, files, etc.)

@bram integrated backups, size management, CPU/mem footprint by application (see if a test application should be removed since it's eating up all the ressources)

@bram make it "easier" to migrate from an existing debian setup. That's a very hard problem though... "I've detected these domains in your apache configuration, let me replace that by nginx, etc"...

@bram Easier admin? Only way that can get any easier is if you do for me, lol. A mobile app could help with easier admin.
Debugging and more in depth docs would be helpful.

@bram Android for now. But I will be google free soon. Im getting a flip phone and hot spot for this purpose. I have an LgG6 but afraid to rom it till I have those 2 things. But whatever rom I can get to work will most likely be android based.
Mobile firefox is ok but a true app would work best.

@unklebonehead ah sorry :x , my exact question was more: which kind of features usage would you have from a mobile app? The admin page isn't enough?

@bram lol. For the admin do everything you can through the browser. For the sso have the buttons open the appropriate mobile apps (when available. ie Mastodon would open Tusky, Airsonic/ Funkwhale would open Dsub, etc.

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