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Not to mention that most of the "punctuation" used in code (slashes, < >, semi-colons etc...) only make sense on English keyboards and are extremely uncomfortable for all non-anglophone users

@wxcafe dang i would learn an Arabic Lisp if i had to, that looks amazing

i wrote some MATLAB once in Japanese and it was cathartic

うわーすごいね、アラビア語のリスプ。必要だったらわたし、習ってもいいと思うんだけど…

一回日本語でMATLABを書いたことがあったんだけど、カタルシスだった

@wxcafe what gets me is the claim that programming languages based around another language is impossible... but we literally *just* saw that it's doable.

nothing in the foundation of lisp depends on things being named a certain way, and you can rearrange the special forms to make more sense to speakers of that language like seems to have happened here

@wxcafe the problem i guess comes in with accreting the libraries and tools to do things with, but that's "just" very difficult

@KitRedgrave @wxcafe but a commonly spoken and understood lingua franca is still an easier solution than rewriting all the APIs and libraries

@grainloom @wxcafe it is, but the claim was that it is *impossible*, when clearly it is not

@KitRedgrave @grainloom @wxcafe yes and getting society to get out of the way of trans folks is "possible" in the same sense

the point is that there's insurmountable structural inequality

@amphetamine @KitRedgrave @wxcafe give everyone proper English lessons from an early age, language barrier problem solved.
RTL writing is not *better*, it's not a religious thing, it's not an ideology, it's just a way to write. there is a standard way to write and if you learn it, you will have an easier time writing code.

@amphetamine @KitRedgrave @wxcafe and if you learn the standard language you can *directly* communicate with others who also know it.

so imho the solution is better education, not adding another layer of complexity into our software.

@amphetamine @KitRedgrave @wxcafe
but anyways, a lot of languages support unicode identifiers, so after that all you need is a way to write right-to-left and that should be it.

but then good luck getting any outside developers to work on your code.

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@wxcafe this is one of the things I forgot to take a photo of while I was there

@wxcafe this is something I've honestly always wondered about. Like, ascii and Unicode are primarily English oriented and they're embedded in literally everything we use. I'm upset to hear that it's just not plausible on our current technology to make something even as simple as pong.

@wxcafe god i love this pl
i absolutely fucking adore arabic and want to learn it someday

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